Nuestro Comentario sobre “Únete al trabajo de Transformación” publicado por el National Catholic Reporter (NCR)

(Abajo está la traducción de  Our comment on “Join the work of transformation” posted on National Catholic Reporter on this website.)

Una forma a través de la cual podemos unirnos al trabajo de transformación de nuestra Iglesia y de nuestro país, es ver, con toda claridad, como la actual forma de gobierno de los Estados Unidos, se asemeja en su modus operandi, a las dictaduras de América del Sur, cuyos dictadores fueron entrenados por los Estados Unidos, en la Escuela de las Américas.

William Cavanaugh tiene la experiencia de primera mano con la Iglesia de Chile, durante la dictadura del Gral. Pinochet (1973-1990), cuyo régimen Cavanaugh lo describe como dedicado a avivar las llamas de la confusión y el desorden a través de:

  • Fragmentar y romper el orden que se preveía y esperaba
  • Desacreditar a personas y el análisis que ellas hacían de lo que estaba sucediendo
  • Crear caos para propiciar la necesidad de orden (un orden que quería decir eliminar a la disidencia).
  • El arte estratégico de crear una situación anómala, en la que la gente se vuelve víctima del miedo y la ansiedad.

¿Nos suena conocido algo de lo anterior? ¿Lo sienten como algo que han experimentado?

Pero, ¡claro está¡ algo similar a una dictadura, jamás podría suceder en USA.

Las citas anteriores han sido tomadas del libro TORTURA Y EUCARISTÍA de William Cavanaugh. El capítulo 2 de este libro, “La Iglesia aprende a vivir oprimida” probablemente nos enseñaría algo a todos.

Sobre este tema continuaremos hablando.

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“All Catholics are cafeteria Catholics” says Jesuit priest. Is this a good thing?

Maybe Fr. Thomas Reese, editor of National Catholic Reporter, is right when he says, “Welcome to the cafeteria” as a way of expressing Catholic unity.  He explains why…

“The truth is all Catholics are cafeteria Catholics. Conservative Catholics were quite willing to ignore John Paul’s and Benedict’s strong statements on justice and peace, and progressive Catholics are happy to ignore Francis’ opposition to women priests.”

If this is cafeteria Catholicism, then certainly it will continue to obstruct change in the Catholic Church for generations to come. Thus the Catholic Church will remain one big unhappy family adamantly arguing back and forth as we decide what to fight and what to ignore about liturgy, justice and peace, and opposition to women priests, etc, etc.

So what happens to deep Vatican II reform of the Catholic Church…beyond even its pastoral and merciful approach?  Does it simply die of benign neglect or fear of causing schism?

Fr. Reese says, “Catholics need to grow up and learn to live in a church where arguments take place, but we should not let disagreements break up the family. We need to understand that people have different viewpoints and that we can learn from one another by having dialogue. Rather than dividing into partisan factions, we need to model what it means to be a community.”

Yes, “WE ARE Family!”   But family cannot grow if it cannot respect each other’s differences and allow one another the space to grow differently.  And what if certain members of the family are against differences, against change and against dialog?  Do the other family members just bow their heads in submission…in hope that something someday will change before or long after they die?   We think NOT!

In 2015, Cardinal Walter Kasper wrote an article in ORIGINS “Vatican II: Toward a Multifaceted Unity”. (Vol 45, #9). He wrote about the unity in diversity needed if we are to make any further progress in ecumenical endeavors. We suggest it is time to look WITHIN our Church to see the possibilities for a “multifaceted unity” because cafeteria style is definitely NOT working for either side of the Church.  Pick&Choose cafeteria-style offers no challenge for growth on either side.

We say, “NO” to Cafeteria Catholicism and “YES” to Multifaceted Unity! https://RiteBeyondRome.com

Fr. Reese’s article:  https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/more-catholic-pope

Church Unity: NOT about merging disparate factions

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If Cardinal Kasper can say this

about ecumenical unity,

might this wisdom for unity

apply as well WITHIN the Church?

Might this be the wisdom we need
WITHIN our polarized Roman Catholic Church?

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…a Church polarized by its different interpretations of
the Second Vatican Council

…a Church polarized between

those who hold minimum assent to the Council
and
those who see Vatican II as whole new direction for the Church?

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Hope for the Church: Young adults from all over the world at Vatican Seminar talk freely!

“They did not hesitate to challenge the academic presenters or to raise the stakes by freely expressing their views during the debates.

In fact, they even protested when the presentations of the experts exceeded the time limit and ate into their precious discussion time.

They also criticized the Vatican survey addressed to young people which was considered to be too long or poorly translated.

‘The pope asked us to ‘make chaos,’ that’s precisely what we’re doing,’ said Lucas Barboza with a smile.”

VIEW short VIDEO snippets of their discussions on the link below

via Young people make waves at Synod meeting – La Croix International

La Eucaristía: Mi pan roto

(Abajo está la traducción de  Eucharist: My Bread Broken on this website.)

“Si no dejas que se rompa tu pan para que bendiga
y alimente a otros, no habrá vida en ti.”
Cuando esto dijo, los demás se alejaron.

Todos quieren una vida mejor,
más vida, y más grandiosa que la dada.

¿Dónde está el punto? ¿Existe tal cosa?
¿Dónde está el punto? ¿Quiero ir ahí?

MI pan, MI todo,
Todo lo que me es caro,
¿Debo dejar que se rompa?
¿Cómo podría ser?

¿Dejar que se rompa mi pan?
¿para QUÉ?… ¡Me ahogo!.
“Sin pan, sin rotura,
“Moriremos”, dijeron.
Y se alejaron.

¡Oh!, ahí está el roce en mi alma:
MI Pan, MI PAN…
No se debe partir.
Lo quiero como lo quiero
por qué, dónde y cuándo.
Yo lo decido…. y punto.

Debes de tener pan,
tu propio pan. No lo puedes dar,
o deja que se lo lleven.

¿Dejar que se rompa tu pan?
¿Dejar que se ROMPA como se ha de romper?
¿Permitirlo o NO?

¿El Pan roto
no me hará un fracasado?
“¿No acaso lo perdemos de todas maneras?
No nos lo podemos llevar.”
No, pero aun así nos sustenta.

El pan roto, las esperanzas, sueños, ilusiones
y las cosas que casi nunca se cumplen…
porque la vida no se ajusta lo suficiente,
sólo te rodea a ti y a mí.

No puedo partir mi pan…
me lo ha partido la vida.
“Pobre de mí”, el único pan que tenía…

La con-miseración es lo que me hace seguir
seguir y seguir, más y más,
una y otra vez, de vuelta a donde comencé
…¿a menos que parta mi pan?
¿preciosos planes para que las cosas sean lo que deben?
¿lo que yo, tú, ella y él
simplemente deberíamos de ser?

La quieta vocecilla interior
que llama donde sea,
el dónde, el cómo y el por qué carece de razones,
el loco llamado desde un lugar desconocido…

Así que, a menos que parta mi pan,
¿no habrá vida en mí?, ¿en lo que hago?
O sólo sentiré la terrible ausencia de algo…

Me dijeron que sería feliz; que estaría a salvo,
La Certeza y la Seguridad, mis fieles compañeras, merman.
¿Dónde, dónde está el pan que he de partir?

La hermana Lea

(Nuestra más profunda gratitud a Cinthia De Gortari por su fina traducción profesional de este poema.)

 

 

 

 

Theological Differences between Catholic Rites?

Theological Differences
(Excerpt below from from:  Doctrine | From East to West)

Is it true that the Eastern Catholic Churches are allowed to have different theological expressions? If so what does it involve?

This certainly is true. The Eastern Catholic Churches are not only “allowed” but are actively encouraged to cultivate their own distinctive theological expressions.

 

Eastern Catholics, while fully Catholic and in communion with the Pope, differ in more ways than just liturgy. We also possess a unique spiritual tradition, as well as a unique theological approach. While we agree with the Latin Church on fundamental matters of doctrine, we approach doctrine in a very different way – from the Eastern perspective. While the Western Church has traditionally formulated doctrine in terms of scholastic Latin theology, we rely almost exclusively on the theology of the Eastern Church Fathers. This difference, rather than rupturing the unity of the Church, further expresses the true UNIVERSALITY of Christ’s Church.

 

This is authoritatively taught by the Second Vatican Council:

“All in the Church must preserve unity in essentials. But let all, according to the gifts they have received enjoy a proper freedom, in their various forms of spiritual life and discipline, in-their different liturgical rites, and even in their theological elaborations of revealed truth,” (UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO, no. 4).

Excerpt above from Doctrine | From East to West

Certainly Opus Dei, as the first Roman prelature approved by the Vatican, has different theological perspectives on Vatican II than traditional Roman Rite/Church theology.

Given the above, it should be perfectly reasonable that a Vatican II Rite/Church with its different theological perspectives can co-exist with the 22 other non-Roman Rites/Churches in union with Rome.

Los documentos del Vaticano II que contienen una “formulación de compromiso” propician una tensión creativa

Abajo está la traducción de  Vatican II “Compromise” Documents as Creative Tension on this website.

El extracto del blog que aparece abajo, habla de una disposición para recibir puntos de vista opuestos, en una tensión creativa como la del “Espíritu del Vaticano II”

En respuesta al punto de vista expresado en ese texto, hacemos* las siguientes preguntas:     (*Hermanas Lea y Consilia)

  • ¿Será capaz el Rito Católico Romano, de abrirse a puntos de vista opuestos, en una “tensión creativa”, cuando se ve a si misma como la Única Santa Sede? ¿O cuando se define a si misma con expresiones como “El Papado” o la Corte Papal? Cuando ve su Catolicismo Rito Romano por encima, por sobre todas las otras Iglesias/Ritos Católicos.
    • ¿No fue acaso en el Segundo Concilio Ecuménico Vaticano, en el que se fue capaz de mantener en tensión puntos de vista opuestos, por el solo hecho de que representaba un cuerpo católico más numeroso y no ser únicamente el Rito Romano del Catolicismo?
  • El Concilio Vaticano II, de 1962-1965 dio a luz documentos con una “formulación de compromiso”, gracias a un trabajo de toda la Iglesia Católica, que incluía tanto a Roma. Como a las otras 22 Iglesias/Rito no-romano, en comunión con Roma.
    • ¿Fue acaso la participación de estas Iglesias/ritos en unión con Roma, (junto con la participación, -sin derecho a voto-, de otras iglesias ritos no-romanos), lo que ayudó a mantener la tensión creativa, de la que se habla o llama “El Espíritu del Vaticano II” …una tensión creativa inscrita en los documentos del Vaticano II que contienen una formulación de compromiso?
  • ¿Y no fue acaso la creación ecuménica de estos documentos de “compromiso” que provocaron una respuesta mundial al “Espiritu del Vaticano II”?
    • Fue el Espíritu Santo quien abrió las compuertas en el Concilio Vaticano II, precisamente por el hecho mismo de estar reunidos muchos católicos.

Los invitamos a reflexionar sobre estos puntos y a compartir aquí sus opiniones. Gracias. De parte de todos nosotros en https://RiteBeyondRome.com

Las preguntas anteriores son en respuesta a la publicación en el blog traducido debajo:

The Wild Reed: Truth about “Spirit of Vatican II” finally reveled

“En varias partes de los documentos del Vaticano II, se pueden encontrar formulaciones de compromiso que suavizan algunos de los principales conflictos, sin llegar a resolverlos.

El Decreto sobre la Iglesia habla, por un lado, de Colegialidad, por el otro, de la autoridad absoluta del Papa. El Decreto sobre la Liturgia dice: “Lingua Latina est lingua Ecclesiae”. (Diversas traducciones dicen: “El Latin es la lengua de la Iglesia”, “ A Latin language (italiano) es la lengua de la Iglesia,” etc.), pero al mismo tiempo, este decreto abre el camino para un amplio uso de las lenguas vernáculas.

No podemos darle un valor absoluto a la autoridad en la Iglesia, que nos llevaría a un punto en el que no queda espacio para una participación activa de los laicos en la liturgia. De igual manera no podemos enfatizar la naturaleza jerárquica de la Iglesia, que nos llevaría a identificar a la Iglesia con los obispos y el Papa, dejando fuera a los laicos hasta el extremo de estar negando la noción de la Iglesia como Pueblo de Dios.

Estas visiones o posturas, deberán mantenerse en estado de tensión creativa, mientras la Iglesia va adaptándose a las necesidades de los tiempos. Como tales, conformar la base de un diálogo entre hermanas y hermanos, sobre dónde debe ubicarse, dentro de los extremos. Por ejemplo: necesitamos abordar la pregunta, ¿cómo debe ejercerse la vigilancia de la jerarquía, de tal forma que se aliente laparticipación de los creyentes?

…Quizá la voluntad de mantener esta “tensión creativa” cuando se leen e interpretan los documentos del Vaticano II, constituye en realidad una gran parte de lo que llamamos el “Espíritu del Vaticano II”

 

Animate a compartir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Post-VATICAN II RITE, Theological Activism for the Sake of World Survival, Peace, and Justice

Post-Vatican II efforts to significantly rethink Catholic theology have been suppressed over the past few decades, in the same way that the implementation of a Post-Vatican II Rite has been suppressed. WHY?

  • Because a post-Vatican II Theology would cut across the political and economic agendas of western civilization, both church and state?
  • Because a post-Vatican II Theology created cracks in the wall that kept Judeo-Christian scriptures and tradition within strict political and economic boundaries?
  • Because the foundation and daily functioning of top-down church/state structures depend most heavily on the Roman “God-in-charge” model?
  • Because the survival of western political/economic agendas depends on the  image of an all-knowing, all powerful, judgmental (exclusionary) God-in-Charge?   If that image changes, do political/economic agendas change as well?

Modern communication breakthroughs have chipped away at the religious rationale and justification of the Roman Rite western model of authority and power as the gift and will of God.  This “chipping away” appears to some as an attack on “God-in-Charge” theology, as if there can only be one and only one theological view of authority .

Post-Vatican II progressive theology emphasizes power-sharing images of God as core scriptural and traditional concepts…concepts heretofore minimized and neglected in favor of the Roman Rite western standard.

Constructionist/activist theologian, Joerg Rieger* explains that the “God in Charge” theological perspective is not the only one, nor even the most beneficial one for society in our time.  Rieger explores the popularity and success of right wing theological activism in our time and poses this question:

“Is it possible that Trump’s way of projecting power resonates with the way in which many people of faith perceive God’s power to be at work?”


  • (God/Trump) as a doer who can single-handedly fix things if he wants to.
  • (God/Trump who) acts without consulting others and without asking for permission
  • (God/Trump who) acts without being influenced by anyone else.
  • (God/Trump) projects power…strictly from the top down, from a subject to its objects, from the ruler to the ruled.
  • (God/Trump) can do anything. According to this logic, might also makes things right.

If “Trump’s way of projecting power resonates with the way in which many people of faith perceive God’s power to be at work,” then the post-Vatican II Rite urgently needs to engage in a Theological Activism that highlights shared power as bona fide scriptural and tradition-based concepts and practices…shared power in no way inferior to the efficient Roman model.

The present underlying theological substructure of politics/economics continues to support the political rise and popularity of dictator-type personalities and trickle-down economics.  With no input from progressive activist theologians, is there any hope for substantive change of heart and mind in regard to the stranger? …or any hope, that matter, for change in the ultimately apocalyptic direction in which we are moving at full speed ahead?

Activist progressive theologians, Joerg Rieger* and Kwok Pui Lan*, raise two important questions for us to ponder:

  1.  Is it time for people of faith to think more deeply about the God they are worshiping and the kinds of power they want to support?
  2. SHOULD we be leaving prayer-based theological activism solely in the hands of politically conservative religious leaders? (And, whether we acknowledge it or not, are we already doing so at our own peril and the peril of our faith, country, and world?)

A post-Vatican II rite in union with Rome has no fear to engage in prayer-based Theological Activism in ecumenical dialogue…exploring how we might see God in new ways…in wisdom ways that are invitational, NOT confrontational or polarizing.

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References:
*Activist theologian and author of several books on this subject, Joerg Rieger, co-author of OCCUPY RELIGION: Theology of the Multitude with Kwok Pui Lan are both part of the Occupy Theology Movement.

JOERG RIEGER’s Website: http://joergrieger.com/

URL Link for Huffington Post piece: “Divine Power, Donald Trump, and How the 2016 Presidential Elections Challenge Common Religious Assumption” by Joerg Rieger

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joerg-rieger/divine-power-donald-trump_b_12488082.html

Vatican II “Compromise” Documents as Creative Tension

The blog excerpt below speaks of the willingness to hold opposite viewpoints in creative tension as the “Spirit of Vatican II”.

We ask these questions in response to that viewpoint:

  • Is Roman Rite Catholicism able to hold opposite views in “creative tension” WHEN it sees itself alone as the Holy See …When it defines itself in terms of “the papacy or the papal court?”  …When it views its Roman Rite Catholicism as claim of supremacy over all other Catholic Rites/Churches. 

  • Was it not the very Second Ecumenical Vatican Council which WAS able to hold opposing views in tension because it represented a larger body of Catholicism than simply Roman Rite Catholicism?
    • The Vatican II Council of 1962-65 brought forth “compromise” documents through the work of a larger Catholic Church which included both Rome and its 22 other non-Roman Catholic Rite/Churches in union with Rome.

  • Was it the participation of these other rites/churches in union with Rome
    (along with the non-voting participation of other non-Roman Christian rites/churches) which helped hold the creative tension spoken of as the “Spirit of Vatican II”?  …a creative tension inscribed within the “compromise” documents of Vatican II?


    • And was it these very ecumenically-created Catholic “compromise” documents which resulted in the world-wide response to the “Spirit of Vatican II”?

  • Was the Holy Spirit unleashed at Vatican II by the very gathering of many Catholic rites in addition and in balance to the Roman Rite which considers itself the elder brother and hierarchical leader of all the Catholic Rite/Churches?

Think about it…and share your thoughts below.  Thanks from all at https://RiteBeyondRome.com

Questions above are in response to the blog post excerpt below:
The Wild Reed: Truth About “Spirit of Vatican II” Finally Revealed!

“The Vatican II documents in many places are compromise documents that smooth over some of the major conflicts without resolving them. Thus the decree on the Church talks about collegiality on the one hand but absolute papal authority on the other. The decree on the Liturgy says: “Lingua Latina est lingua Ecclesiae” (variously translated as “Latin is the language of the Church.” “Latin is a church language.” “A Latin language [Italian?] is a language of the Church.” etc.) but at the same time opens the way for the widespread use of the vernacular…

…One can’t absolutize church authority to the point that there is no room for the active participation of the laity in the liturgy. Similarly, one cannot stress the hierarchical nature of the Church to the point where the Church becomes identified with the Bishops and Pope with no place for the laity or to the point where it negates the notion of the Church as the people of God.

These ideas have to be held in creative tension as the Church adapts to the needs of the time. As such they form the basis for sisterly and brotherly dialog as to where the contemporary Church should fall within the extremes. For example, we need to address the question: How should hierarchical oversight be exercised so as to encourage the active participation of the faithful….

…Perhaps the willingness to hold this “creative tension” when reading and interpreting the documents of Vatican II is a big part of what is meant by “the Spirit of Vatican II.”